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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon strickler join me as i

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examine

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unexplained creatures strange

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manifestations of remarkable realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio

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where we explore the unexplained live on

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beyond explanation

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i'm your host lon strickler coming to

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you from the anomalous state

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of pennsylvania now our uh

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guest tonight is from idaho she's a

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writer author and uh

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because of that i decided i was gonna go

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ahead and discuss

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a uh sighting that was sent to me back

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in february

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and we're gonna have the photo of that

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was given to me

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here on youtube and on facebook now the

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the information that with a copy

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accompanied this

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photo was from a guy by the name of cc

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and he states i received a photograph

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now i received a photograph from

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the eyewitness cc and otto uh

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this past february it's 2020.

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now cece stated in our telephone

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conversation

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that he and his business partner were

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hunting near

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warm lake in valley county idaho

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now this was in mid-afternoon in late

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2019 the pair also

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owned a land stake in the area

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now as they were taking a break they

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heard a screaming sound coming from the

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ridge ahead of them

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cece wasn't sure what the sound was

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but his partner thought that it may have

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been a deer in distress

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or in his death throws so as he scanned

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the ridge in the valley in front of them

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they noticed movement along the edge

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and as they watched cece thought that it

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another hunter but there was something

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unusual about the size and the way it

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was moving

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he looked through his binoculars and was

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shocked by the size of the figure

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he took out his cell camera even though

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it had a crack lens

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and he snapped off the photograph before

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creature moved out of sight now both

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that they believe that this was a

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bigfoot with a deer carcass slung over

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they also noticed it's a movement that

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it also be dragging something behind it

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so i have uh i took the photograph sent

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to several people

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people in my group as well and uh

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bigfoot has a deer slung over his

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or what the deal was but uh this was in

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and i'm kind of i hope our guests can

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see it so i'll ask her about it

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while we uh go through the show

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now tonight i welcome bigfoot author

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becky cook to arcane radio now becky is

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an award-winning author

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columnist and speaker from idaho

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becca has been collecting true bigfoot

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encounter stories since she was in her

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teens becky cook has collected these

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stories from numerous people

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around the state of ottawa who have

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actually seen bigfoot

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and shares these eyewitness accounts

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along with her experience

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from this background becky cook has

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written now three books about bigfoot

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sightings in ottawa

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bigfoot lives in idaho is her first book

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it was followed by brookford still lives

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and finally by bigfoot lives forever in

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idaho she grew up in eastern idaho and

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now lives near burley idaho with her

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articles and stories in local

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regional and national publications

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so becky thanks for joining me this

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evening thank you for inviting me

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so i mean have you seen hey did you see

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the pictures that came up

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yes what do you think about that

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you probably got a picture of a bigfoot

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right there that area

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where it came from is actually a really

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an area where they they see the bigfoot

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witness he seemed to believe that it was

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of course and uh you know if he owned

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there and he said he had heard about

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bigfoot reports

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at the time he purchased it and he said

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he was kind of surprised

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to see it but yeah he did definitely

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believe that's what it was

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so um tell us a bit about becky cook

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uh what got you involved with bigfoot

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uh to what degree interest do you have

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so i was born on the um shoshone bannock

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indian reservation i am i'm not native

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the pocatello police department which is

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just to the south of the

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reservation so starting when i was a

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needed some help they would call my

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he acted as the liaison police officer

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police departments and the indians trust

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my dad because he's as honest as he can

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my dad got called out on a call

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on a big foot call and in this

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this family was living in a single wide

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trailer

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angry was gonna shake the

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the house off its foundation they didn't

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have a phone

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so the bigfoot was trying to to shake

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this house off its foundation

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and so the people waited until the

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bigfoot went around the back of the

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house and then they all ran out and got

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um and policemen were sent out after

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bigfoot was gone but it had also

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dismantled the pump house

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and there was footprints and mud and and

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all sorts of crazy things there that

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so they attracted down to the canal

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where they found where they actually ran

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into it and they said it was head and

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the tree was standing behind and it was

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we were on a trip across the reservation

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past that house my dad pointed it out to

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my mom and said that's where

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that bigfoot had been and there's that

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pump house and it was all in smithereens

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and i told her that about this story

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that happened a long time before and

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she said so you didn't hear the rest of

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the story then and i said wait there's a

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rest of the story

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and she said yeah she said the guy who

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lived in that house had taken a pot shot

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bigfoot and drawn blood

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other bigfoot came in and

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she said he moved out of the area

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oh about three miles away from our home

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and um by then we had moved we lived way

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out on the lava rock

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which is really treacherous

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going you you know you don't go out

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because your feet will get ripped up and

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our neighbors had called and said hey

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when did you guys come over this way

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because i am six six and i have big feet

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and my next younger brother is now six

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eight and his feet are bigger than mine

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so she assumed that these footprints

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that she found were probably ours

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and i was thinking no no it goes

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barefoot out the rocks

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just don't but i wanted to see these

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footprints so we went down to look at

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and sure enough here's these two perfect

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footprints and a half

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print and they were about 17 inches long

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which was far longer than mine and

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completely barefoot and the foot had

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to see these footprints so

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anyway so that happened and then as time

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let's see 2000.

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um we how much of this story do you want

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all of it whatever you want to tell me

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camping and when we go camping we read

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read

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was starting to give out

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about midnight and i sent the kids to

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bed

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so kids are all settled in for the night

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and i'm almost asleep and i heard

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something out by the picnic table

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and i'm thinking becky you dork

293
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you left your scraps out there and

294
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there's bear

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there's moose that was really stupid you

296
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know

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so i unzipped the bottom of the tent and

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it kind of poked my head out

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and there was this being there that was

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bent over

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eating these scraps and its back was

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level with the top of the table

303
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and uh all you could see color wise was

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that it was dark and then it had this

305
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silver sheen across

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its back and so you know your mind says

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you know

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skunk badger definitely not a skunk

309
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too big definitely not a badger

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so i didn't know what to think of it and

311
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and it's sitting out there and i said

312
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what are you doing out there

313
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and it just it put one hand down like a

314
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football player

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and just ran forward on two legs

316
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and i thought what the heck was that

317
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wow what the heck was that

318
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it was just it wasn't that far from me

319
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it was like 20

320
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20 some odd feet away you know in the

321
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moonlight you could see it pretty

322
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clearly

323
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and then we started finding all these

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footprints in our in our

325
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their yard and all of them were like

326
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15 16 17 inches long

327
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and we were finding a lot of them like

328
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once a week

329
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we would find a new footprint in the

330
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yard somewhere

331
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and um it was just kind of cool to me to

332
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know that these bigfoot were around all

333
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the time and

334
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maybe i just hadn't been aware of it

335
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before so

336
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anyway so i started collecting these

337
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stories and

338
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i actually started collecting the

339
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stories way back in high school

340
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just for the intent of gosh these are

341
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cool stories

342
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and then as i've gotten older um

343
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it's been more for you know put them in

344
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a book and let other people read them

345
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too

346
00:14:01,670 --> 00:13:59,829
interesting man i don't know but i'd do

347
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it i'd see that many

348
00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:05,760
footprints out in my yard that's amazing

349
00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:08,480
um how many how many encounters have you

350
00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:09,120
had

351
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uh is that the only one or um

352
00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:16,480
oh um

353
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i let me think i would have to i would

354
00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:21,120
have to really think about that

355
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um the last time we there was seven of

356
00:14:28,829 --> 00:14:25,279
us humans

357
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uh three of them all at once during the

358
00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:30,079
daytime

359
00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:33,279
um and then seen him multiple times just

360
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single so

361
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maybe 15 times something like that is

362
00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:45,360
that right sometimes

363
00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:48,639
yeah it's amazing yep

364
00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:50,320
yeah you know you don't really hear a

365
00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:52,720
whole lot about pod groups or family

366
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groups

367
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other than in the upper well in

368
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pacific northwest for the west eu

369
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but as far as idaho goes that's pretty

370
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amazing

371
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uh it was was this a mountainous area or

372
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was this mostly

373
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uh rolling hills and you know you talk

374
00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:13,839
about the rocks

375
00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:16,880
are they like volcanic rock

376
00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:18,959
the area where i grew up was yeah it's

377
00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:20,959
volcanic rock

378
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,399
where we were finding a bunch of the

379
00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:24,720
footprints but then i had moved

380
00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:27,440
you know and had a bunch of kids and um

381
00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:28,399
it's really

382
00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:32,079
it's this high valley that's nestled in

383
00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:36,000
a bunch of uh mountainous area

384
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very pretty very green

385
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um we had gone up and and taken a picnic

386
00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:44,240
and we were

387
00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:47,040
just out enjoying the sunshine everybody

388
00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:49,199
had their lawn chair and

389
00:15:52,389 --> 00:15:51,920
and uh just sitting there and my one

390
00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:52,399
friend

391
00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:55,759
had her drum with her and so she was

392
00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:57,680
playing her drum and singing a couple of

393
00:16:02,870 --> 00:15:58,959
kids are singing too

394
00:16:05,189 --> 00:16:02,880
and she says hey there's one and

395
00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:05,199
there's two and there's three and so the

396
00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:06,639
one was like

397
00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:09,920
25 feet away to the right

398
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:12,480
of me and then the other two were like

399
00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:13,199
22

400
00:16:19,509 --> 00:16:15,839
feet ish straight up the mountain in

401
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:21,670
and the one was here you know people are

402
00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:24,160
like how big was it i don't know

403
00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:26,720
it was just huge but all you could see

404
00:16:31,829 --> 00:16:29,440
from even 25 feet away was just part of

405
00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:31,839
his chest and his arm and

406
00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:36,160
most of his face wow

407
00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:39,279
you know um i have had

408
00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,199
setting reports and i've talked to

409
00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:43,519
people who have had encounters

410
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:46,079
uh in areas where there's a lot of

411
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:47,120
volcanic rock

412
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,880
i don't know if there's a reason behind

413
00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:50,560
that and it's funny because

414
00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:53,920
one of these people had a had a trailer

415
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:54,639
and this thing

416
00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:57,279
literally went and picked up the trailer

417
00:17:02,629 --> 00:16:59,040
and pulled it off

418
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:02,639
pushed it off the uh of them

419
00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:06,640
of the foundation and uh

420
00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:08,480
and that's funny that you mentioned that

421
00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:10,880
but yeah for whatever reason this guy

422
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:11,919
had a

423
00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:16,720
remember where it was at i

424
00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:20,000
kind of believe it was in um central

425
00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:22,079
washington somewhere i'm not exactly

426
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:24,799
sure it wasn't towards the coast but it

427
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:26,799
was a little further in

428
00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:30,480
and uh yeah and yeah but a lot of these

429
00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:33,440
uh i have had a lot of selling reports

430
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:34,880
in these areas where there's a lot of

431
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,640
volcanic rock

432
00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:38,160
and i don't know if there's a reason

433
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:39,760
behind that

434
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:41,840
but uh it was interesting that you

435
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:47,750
i know when i originally interviewed dr

436
00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:48,480
meldrum

437
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,520
studies

438
00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:53,280
he initially said that you'd find him

439
00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:55,120
mostly in the mountains he didn't

440
00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:56,480
he didn't think he'd find him down on

441
00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:59,120
the flats but i found quite a few

442
00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:00,080
stories of people

443
00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:03,120
who found them out on sagebrush

444
00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:05,440
out on the flat out in the dirt where

445
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:06,799
honestly there's no

446
00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:09,360
place to hide there's there's really

447
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:10,080
nothing

448
00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:13,280
to hide and they just travel across that

449
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:14,799
area and

450
00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:20,549
well of course you now your belief of

451
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,480
bigfoot is that it is an actual

452
00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:24,480
indigenous flesh and blood being from

453
00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:26,480
what i'm hearing from you

454
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:29,039
you know you know the arguments for the

455
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:29,760
uh

456
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:31,520
the possibility of it being an

457
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:34,640
interdimensional species possibly

458
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,160
some type of uh supernatural

459
00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:40,960
aspect to it what are your thoughts in

460
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:42,400
that do you think that

461
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:46,960
these creatures do have abilities that

462
00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:53,350
well here's the thing i think that god

463
00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:55,280
created all of this

464
00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:56,799
and then he gave us different

465
00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:58,400
characteristics and

466
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:00,880
uh throughout time i think that we have

467
00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:02,799
lost a lot of the stuff that we came

468
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:04,000
with

469
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:07,679
um that's my thought on it because

470
00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:09,280
i had this conversation with someone

471
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:10,960
about like esp

472
00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:14,000
esp i usually say espn

473
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,520
no esp and how um

474
00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:19,120
you know the the big vote will do the

475
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:21,360
mind speak thing and people are like ah

476
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:23,120
that you know that's just sort of hokey

477
00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:24,880
and i just think

478
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:27,280
why do you think that's hokey because

479
00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:30,160
i've been talking to my animals for

480
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:32,559
ever you know and a lot of the times i

481
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,080
can understand i'm just as clear as

482
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:36,080
they're speaking english

483
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:40,480
and to me it's just

484
00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:44,160
a matter of focus like even with my

485
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:46,640
siblings i have certain siblings that i

486
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:47,840
can

487
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,600
what's going on in their lives just from

488
00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:53,039
a distance

489
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:55,120
i have good friends that do that to me

490
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:56,240
too like if i'm

491
00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:59,440
really traumatized by something um

492
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:01,039
i have one good friend that'll call me

493
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:02,640
within about 10 minutes and

494
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:06,159
how does he know i have no idea

495
00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:10,000
but that's interesting yeah it's just

496
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,440
so i'm i'm i believe that they're

497
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:15,280
they are spiritual beings in the same

498
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,679
way that we are spiritual beings

499
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,600
but i also believe that they've kept a

500
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:21,360
lot of the gifts that heavenly father

501
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:22,400
gave them

502
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,880
that maybe we have we have or have had

503
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,640
but haven't tapped into for a really

504
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:30,720
long time or multiple generations back

505
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,799
or whatever

506
00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:34,640
so that's kind of my take on that and

507
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,320
you know and you can throw in all the

508
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,000
stuff about the portals and

509
00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:40,320
everything else and people think oh

510
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:42,799
that's just kind of weird well

511
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:45,360
i i thought that was too until i started

512
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:47,039
interviewing people and found

513
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:49,760
people who had been through the portals

514
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:50,799
and

515
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:54,720
actually

516
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:57,200
been to the lip of one or two of the

517
00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:58,559
portals and

518
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,840
can tell you i didn't want to go through

519
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:02,559
them right

520
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,480
your brain it feels really weird

521
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:08,720
it feels like you're going into a

522
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:11,280
negative gravity

523
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:15,120
so it just like you can't quite stand

524
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:16,880
upright

525
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:20,000
it just feels weird you know like all of

526
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:20,720
a sudden you're

527
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:23,840
dizzy and you're not you know

528
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,320
so um one of the fellows that i

529
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:28,640
interviewed

530
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:30,880
he had been following a bigfoot and of

531
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,880
course bigfoot walked a lot faster than

532
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,400
people do

533
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,960
and he was on this rolling hill going up

534
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:38,640
and down and up and down and he said

535
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,400
he'd wait till the bigfoot crossed over

536
00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:41,760
the top of the hill and then he'd run to

537
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:42,720
catch up

538
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,799
and then he slowed down an inch inch

539
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:46,720
over the top and watched

540
00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:48,320
and as soon as the bigfoot went across

541
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:50,080
the next thing he'd hurry up and catch

542
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:51,280
up

543
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,760
when he went across one of the tops of

544
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:54,880
this

545
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:57,440
mountain he was all of a sudden not in

546
00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:58,880
idaho anymore

547
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,880
he said it was in rainforest and it

548
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:03,200
great big leaves green

549
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,400
dripping plants and and it freaked him

550
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:08,240
right out

551
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:11,360
but he turned around and he ran back out

552
00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:14,799
and and he was back out to sagebrush

553
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:18,159
and i said wow that's that's pretty wild

554
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:19,760
i said so do you know where the bigfoot

555
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,159
went he said i i didn't care

556
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,240
i was worried that i would get stuck

557
00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:26,559
there if i didn't go back out the way i

558
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:28,559
came in

559
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:32,080
so you know i i

560
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,400
i have met very few people that have

561
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:36,480
experienced the portal

562
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:40,000
now you know i have myself

563
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,600
but in my in my instance it was

564
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,200
something entirely different had nothing

565
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,960
to do with bigfoot you know

566
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:48,720
it was something to do with an

567
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:50,880
investigation or

568
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:52,960
sensing a spirit energy which i'm

569
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:56,000
intuitive so i can occasionally do

570
00:23:02,549 --> 00:22:59,200
and uh i have uh

571
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,559
i have encountered these portals um

572
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:05,360
you know it's usually to me it's i can i

573
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:06,400
can

574
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,679
auto audio audio like i actually hear a

575
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:11,200
buzzing sound

576
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:13,760
and like you said that negative energy

577
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:14,240
that

578
00:23:20,830 --> 00:23:17,200
like a um uh how you describe i don't

579
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,950
um i don't know

580
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,640
you just it is a different feeling i

581
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,080
mean you can tell

582
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,679
that you're getting into some place

583
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,120
different

584
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:31,440
well they have the montana vortex up

585
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:33,280
there in montana that

586
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,679
they've said i have not been up there

587
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,600
but i've sat next to those guys at

588
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:38,960
conventions and been

589
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:44,549
yeah that is and i know which the area

590
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:45,520
you're talking about

591
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:48,960
and it is interesting i mean uh you know

592
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:51,919
somebody you you know i i guess maybe

593
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:53,760
some of it is optical illusion but i

594
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:54,159
think

595
00:24:03,350 --> 00:23:58,480
maybe the conditions uh actually

596
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:03,360
produce that effect uh but it is strange

597
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:06,960
yeah so uh you you're not entirely uh

598
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,480
negative as to a bigfoot or any other

599
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:12,880
cryptid having some type of uh

600
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,320
abilities that we just don't understand

601
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:19,200
yeah that's kind of where i i look at it

602
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,159
just because i

603
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,559
i know people that have had some really

604
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,799
amazing gifts and

605
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,640
i just feel like that's not something

606
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:28,320
you really mess with

607
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:31,600
you know yeah yeah

608
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:36,159
so um do you do you do investigations or

609
00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:36,640
do you

610
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:39,679
collect stories just of idaho

611
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,120
for the majority i mostly collect

612
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,360
stories in idaho but i l i just love to

613
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,520
hear stories so if i hear a good story i

614
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,360
usually write it down and i put it in a

615
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:51,120
different file in my computer just

616
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,159
because

617
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,440
um

618
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,520
there's some that just make me laugh

619
00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:59,279
because i just think these bigfoot

620
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:01,760
really have a good sense of humor

621
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,320
um and and i figured they probably have

622
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:06,559
a huge imaginations because they put up

623
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,880
with some really stupid behavior from

624
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,080
humans

625
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:12,640
you know without without feeling like

626
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,190
yeah i've heard a lot of strange stories

627
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:21,200
over the years and uh

628
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,600
you're right i mean the way people react

629
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:25,360
to these things

630
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:29,360
and some of the things that they do

631
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,559
uh you know it is ridiculous i mean

632
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,559
you know you're you're basically living

633
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:35,840
in their area

634
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,360
yeah uh yeah so

635
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:42,400
what's that again go ahead no i was i

636
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,840
was just going to ask you

637
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,000
what is probably the strangest story

638
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,240
that you've ever heard

639
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,799
or when it kind of tickles you more than

640
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:52,080
anything else

641
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:55,520
i i've heard so many well the thing that

642
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,799
kind of that i'm reminded when he said

643
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:01,200
that about just doing crazy things

644
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:04,720
um i interviewed a guy once who

645
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,600
um i swear he had a female bigfoot who

646
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:09,360
had a big crush on him

647
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,360
and um he was he was dating this gal

648
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,440
and they're out on his pickup truck

649
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:17,440
making out heavy and hot in this

650
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:20,720
out in the middle of nowhere and he said

651
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,000
um just then the back of his pickup gets

652
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,720
lifted up about two feet and slid over

653
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:28,960
two feet and just dropped

654
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,039
and he said you know spoils the whole

655
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:33,120
romance

656
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,640
i bet it makes me laugh cause

657
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:38,640
he's like the girl's like take me home

658
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:39,760
man

659
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:42,640
yeah absolutely the funny thing is

660
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,720
another lady told me i've heard that

661
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:46,880
story multiple multiple times

662
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:49,440
but she said another gal was telling me

663
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:50,480
this and

664
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,679
she's like 81. and um

665
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,640
she said when she was 16 17 she was out

666
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:58,240
with her cousins

667
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,880
and she and her girl girl cousin were

668
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,640
eating snacks and stuff and the guys

669
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,159
were drinking

670
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,640
and getting kind of obnoxious and and

671
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,320
honoree and stuff

672
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,720
and she said um there just sits out

673
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:12,480
there in the middle like

674
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,320
somebody picks up the back of the car

675
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,159
and lifts it up about three feet and

676
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,880
then just drops it

677
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:21,279
and she said the guys go pulling the

678
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,720
pilot out of the car

679
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:24,320
there's nothing there there's nobody

680
00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:35,590
wow so um

681
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,480
you know do you actually go out in

682
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:39,200
investigations yourself

683
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:44,000
or uh do you go and collect evidence or

684
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,279
other than just hearing stories

685
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:49,200
i don't really think of myself as a

686
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:50,399
researcher i

687
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:53,840
i love the stories but one of the things

688
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:54,799
that makes

689
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:58,399
others

690
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:01,360
is that i believe that the bigfoot live

691
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:02,559
in families

692
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:05,919
and um as i've listened to all of these

693
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:09,039
stories for years and years around me

694
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:12,720
i can pretty well pinpoint where

695
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:16,559
many of the bigfoot families live and um

696
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,279
what's funny about that is quite often i

697
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:20,799
like to go down to the bigfoot

698
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:24,080
to the to the um

699
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:26,000
indian reservation and i'll sit and just

700
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,679
talk or just sit and just listen

701
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,159
and i used to have this fella who would

702
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:34,159
tell me some really amazing stories and

703
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:34,480
he

704
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:37,760
didn't want to tell me a lot of

705
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,360
information he wanted to keep it all

706
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,840
hidden you know and and so

707
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:43,520
he would be telling me the story and he

708
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:45,200
said man that sounds like that

709
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:47,919
that's that family epic panic creek and

710
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,830
well i listen you know sounds like bunny

711
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:58,880
creek

712
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:04,549
i i just thought that was funny but i

713
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:05,279
that's

714
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:08,399
what i do is just sit and listen so

715
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:11,039
anyway there's there's certain areas

716
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,960
around here that are real hot spots

717
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:14,240
where you hear of a lot

718
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:17,600
of a lot of activity and

719
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,440
um and it's just kind of fun

720
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,679
you know people will say well sure you

721
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:25,360
know a lot of your stories are all from

722
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,760
the same areas and i think well

723
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:29,919
i know the hot spots in my area and it

724
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,279
seems like i kind of

725
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,640
stumble onto people who've had amazing

726
00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:36,480
things happen to them

727
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,799
and then not so much from other sections

728
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:40,559
in idaho just because i don't have as

729
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:43,360
many connections up there

730
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:47,120
right well you know i i have had

731
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:50,799
a lot of um experience with

732
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:54,880
talking to witnesses on reservations

733
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,559
in particular navajo reservation down in

734
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,440
new mexico and arizona and some of the

735
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,600
experiences had with the furry ones or

736
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:05,760
what they call them

737
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:09,039
and uh for the most part they

738
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:13,279
you know they really do not want

739
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,480
to be too uh specific as to the

740
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,480
locations and some of the stuff

741
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,799
though i have you know you know with

742
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,480
other people i have talked to them and

743
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,080
i've never been out there

744
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,320
but uh you know with other researchers

745
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,240
and investigators

746
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:30,799
but uh some of the stories are just

747
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,480
unbelievable

748
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:35,440
i mean uh you know the encounters and

749
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:36,080
some of the

750
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,919
the antics that these things do uh

751
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:42,000
i had a well i don't know if you know

752
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:43,039
who j.c

753
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,880
johnson was uh not too many years ago

754
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,399
but he used to um

755
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,320
do a lot of research and live down in

756
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:51,760
the four corners area

757
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:55,679
and um he used to talk about

758
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:00,000
being in the um yakuza mountain area

759
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,240
and um chikuska mountains i'm sorry

760
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:06,640
and uh some of the encounters that he

761
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,240
had there

762
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:10,159
where these things would just actually

763
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:11,679
just sit out there and throw

764
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:14,320
rocks and small pebbles at you all night

765
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:15,039
long and just

766
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:18,159
you know just to get a stir a reaction

767
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:20,000
i mean you know if bigfoot could sit

768
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:21,519
there and laugh like you know

769
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,360
i bet they would i mean i i bet they're

770
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,039
sitting there just laughing their asses

771
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,279
off at these guys you know

772
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:29,200
you know one of the things that

773
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:30,559
surprises me is

774
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:33,919
that base they spend so much time

775
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,159
around us and most of the time people

776
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:37,760
aren't even aware of it

777
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:40,080
you know either they're on their phones

778
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,200
they're just not

779
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:44,240
paying attention and there's been times

780
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,039
when i've found

781
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,440
footprints you know in really highly

782
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:49,440
populated areas and i just think

783
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,279
why isn't someone else seeing this

784
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:55,519
you know do they just do they just not

785
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:56,799
even notice

786
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:59,039
you know just they just don't pay

787
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,640
attention

788
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,799
you know i have heard that so many times

789
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:04,559
from people

790
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,080
uh i actually believe

791
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:11,039
that some people are predisposed to

792
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:12,559
being able to

793
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:15,679
see these things and i don't know if

794
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:16,080
it's

795
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:19,360
something that is wired into them that

796
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,200
they they have the ability to um

797
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,200
i don't say sense but they're able to

798
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,440
actually see them

799
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,159
uh or they're able to see the evidence

800
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,720
as opposed to other people

801
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,480
you know especially nowadays everybody

802
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:36,720
got their face stuck in their cell phone

803
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,600
or

804
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:39,919
you know you know they're looking down

805
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:42,399
and not looking up i mean it it

806
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,080
it's an interesting you know revelations

807
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:48,480
uh but i've also heard people that have

808
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:49,200
said that

809
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:52,240
they've actually been following

810
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:55,519
a specific bigfoot and it would just

811
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:56,000
suddenly

812
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,919
disappear and they just don't have any

813
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:59,679
rhyme or reason as to where this thing

814
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,480
went

815
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:02,320
uh there was no place for it to duck

816
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:04,240
into or

817
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:07,919
and uh you know do they have the ability

818
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:10,080
to cloak do they have the ability to

819
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,120
possibly disappear maybe go through some

820
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:15,679
type open a portal up of some type

821
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:17,919
i mean that's the big question i mean we

822
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:18,720
do

823
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:22,159
you know i've heard these stories for 40

824
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,279
years now i mean i

825
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:25,600
you know that these seem to show up and

826
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:26,799
then they disappear

827
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:30,640
well maybe there is some ability to make

828
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:31,840
themselves

829
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:35,519
unseen by certain people you know

830
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:39,760
um i started getting this theory

831
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:42,159
oh years ago when i was interviewing

832
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:43,600
people

833
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,480
and so i have this question that i

834
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,120
normally ask everyone i interview

835
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:50,720
somewhere near the end of the interview

836
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,880
all to say so

837
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,559
have you ever had a near-death

838
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:56,480
experience

839
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,760
and you know it's running about say 70

840
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:01,200
percent

841
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,320
that of the people who remember that

842
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:06,399
they've had a near-death experience

843
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:09,839
where because my thought on that is

844
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:12,720
that if you have gone have you if you've

845
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:13,119
gone

846
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:16,320
past the

847
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:20,240
the point where you almost died and then

848
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,440
came back

849
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:23,760
i feel like you pick up some extra

850
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:25,679
sensory stuff that

851
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,200
maybe others miss um i do know

852
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:31,119
where you were talking about how they

853
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:32,639
just disappeared i know

854
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,760
um i was talking to a little indian gal

855
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,119
and she said

856
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,760
that she watched the bigfoot walk

857
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,040
through

858
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,440
a flock of wild turkeys and the turkeys

859
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:44,879
didn't startle

860
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,040
at all um

861
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,520
so she said it's just i guess maybe

862
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:53,200
being one with nature

863
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,760
or whatever i don't know you know i have

864
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,560
heard something

865
00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:58,720
similar that before i i know there's a

866
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,800
guy i know down in the hill country in

867
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:03,280
texas he's got a ranch

868
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:06,640
and uh he talks about seeing

869
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,000
the local bigfoot just walking among the

870
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,000
sheep on his ranch just yeah

871
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,400
like there's nothing there even the

872
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:16,560
cattle i mean

873
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:19,119
now he did say on occasion he has

874
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:20,720
actually seen

875
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:24,720
uh one of the bigfoot actually sitting

876
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:27,760
in a pen basically playing with one of

877
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,240
these sheep

878
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,920
i don't i don't know if it's actually

879
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:33,280
you know that

880
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,560
they just are so used to each other or

881
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:39,359
if there's something else behind that

882
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,920
you know

883
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,839
you you hear all the you hear all these

884
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:43,280
encounters

885
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:46,079
and you gotta wonder you know what are

886
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:48,079
we missing i mean there's something that

887
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:49,520
we just don't

888
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,800
get you know as far as nature goes

889
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,520
uh though we may have at one point but

890
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:57,280
we don't now

891
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,320
yeah i know that um one of the things

892
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:01,920
that bothers me a lot when

893
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:04,160
when i talk to people is how fearful

894
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:05,440
people are

895
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:09,040
is you know i guess we've grown up in an

896
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,839
era where you know people go out on

897
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,599
purpose to be scared you know they go to

898
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:15,520
the haunted mansions and

899
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,520
haunted houses they they like going to

900
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,200
horror shows or whatever and that

901
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:22,320
you know on purpose you go to get scared

902
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:25,440
so when you're going into the woods if

903
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:26,720
you expect to be scared

904
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,920
you're going to run into something that

905
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,760
scares you because that's

906
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:31,680
the purpose of being going in to be

907
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,960
scared

908
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:34,880
and i look at it the other way and i

909
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,960
just think you know

910
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:39,119
we have this beautiful earth we have

911
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:41,760
some amazing things out there

912
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,920
and if you go out to just actually just

913
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,040
enjoy

914
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:47,280
the beauty you're going to find

915
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:48,800
something to appreciate

916
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:52,079
you know so i i

917
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:55,599
just i guess being tall myself

918
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,200
i'm six six so being tall myself

919
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:01,839
i have run into a lot of people women in

920
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:02,480
specific

921
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,760
three

922
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,760
they are scared of me by virtue of the

923
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:10,000
fact that i'm tall

924
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:17,349
i make a point when i when i watch

925
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,280
someone's face

926
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:21,599
if they act like they're scared i

927
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:23,440
immediately sit down

928
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,560
so that i'm on their level because it's

929
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,160
a it's a fear factor thing

930
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:31,200
they're scared so they interview people

931
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:31,839
and they're like

932
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:35,280
oh my gosh it was huge

933
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:37,599
and i just think okay so how tall was it

934
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:38,480
oh it's only

935
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,000
seven and a half eight feet tall you

936
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:41,839
know and i just think

937
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:46,000
okay so so did you have any

938
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:49,040
method of comparison to to arrive at

939
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:49,520
that

940
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:52,880
measurement um what's been interesting

941
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:55,760
is to me is that those that have been

942
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:57,440
able to measure them against

943
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:00,560
something like a tree or whatever

944
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:02,560
um they found out that they're actually

945
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:05,280
taller than that but

946
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,359
it's a hype it's a height thing you know

947
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:10,000
like my sisters are all six inches

948
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:11,680
shorter than i am

949
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,839
but a lot of people if they run into us

950
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:15,680
they think well you guys are all tall

951
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:18,720
and i think well okay they're

952
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,440
they're tall but i'm extraordinarily

953
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:23,040
tall

954
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,000
it's just a it's a hype thing you know

955
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,190
to me the hype part is not something to

956
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:32,720
be scared of

957
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,320
um so i i've been really blessed to be

958
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,400
able to talk to some people who

959
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:39,839
who literally are still having

960
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,760
nightmares after having run into a

961
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,839
bigfoot and i just think you know

962
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:45,680
okay so let's break this down what

963
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:47,599
happened you know and they told me what

964
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:48,079
happened

965
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:51,119
and i and i just said you know it really

966
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,720
sounds to me

967
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,440
like they weren't trying to scare you

968
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:57,359
but they were merely curious about what

969
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:58,880
you were doing

970
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:01,520
and if you can look at that experience

971
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:02,000
with the

972
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,359
you know throw in the curiosity factor

973
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,520
um i think you'll see that a little bit

974
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:08,960
different

975
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:12,400
and i talked to one guy oh

976
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:14,560
just a couple weeks ago and he's like

977
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:15,680
thank you

978
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:19,040
said this happened a year ago and i've

979
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:22,240
still been having nightmares

980
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:25,760
wow it does affect people it really does

981
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:26,160
i

982
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,040
does other people

983
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:43,119
you know and you mentioned earlier about

984
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:44,880
uh people

985
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:47,680
going out into uh the woods or wherever

986
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,320
and ex

987
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,560
and looking for something you know it's

988
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:52,160
just like you people who go out

989
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:53,680
big food hunters are out there looking

990
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:55,760
for bigfoot they just very rarely find

991
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,480
one

992
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:58,320
but you know the people that do see a

993
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,680
bigfoot are

994
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,760
another type of crypt that are out there

995
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:03,520
just enjoying themselves

996
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:07,520
for no reason and i think that you know

997
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:10,880
they're uh maybe their attitude uh

998
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,599
their their the way they carry

999
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,520
themselves and

1000
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:18,000
less threatening maybe that's why they

1001
00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:19,760
are able to see

1002
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:22,839
these beings there was a fellow i

1003
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,000
interviewed actually i i was standing in

1004
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,560
a group of older folks

1005
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,400
and i just kind of threw out a random

1006
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,720
question hey has have anybody

1007
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:35,200
around here ever seen a big butt and you

1008
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:35,760
know

1009
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:40,560
uh this is becky she's just silly you

1010
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,359
know

1011
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,960
and this one guy just kind of made her

1012
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,880
funny expression and

1013
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:46,800
oh a couple of days later he said you

1014
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:49,760
know i ran into a bigfoot

1015
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:52,319
i said really where he said just around

1016
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:53,680
the corner from here

1017
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,200
in the middle of the town and i said so

1018
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:59,680
how did that happen and he said well we

1019
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,160
had this great big snowstorm

1020
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:04,319
and he said i wanted to go check on a

1021
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:05,680
couple of widows i knew

1022
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,640
so i'm on my snowmobile and went around

1023
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,319
check on them made sure that everybody

1024
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:12,160
had firewood and whatnot and he said i

1025
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,760
was coming home

1026
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:15,599
and here was this bigfoot stand in the

1027
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,880
middle road

1028
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,960
and i said so what color was he and he

1029
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:20,800
says it was kind of

1030
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:24,000
silver gray kind of like a dirty gray

1031
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,680
you could see him just as clear as can

1032
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,599
be you know and

1033
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:29,680
and i said so what'd he do he said he

1034
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,880
just kind of looked at me

1035
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:33,280
and i lifted him and then he kept

1036
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:34,000
walking across

1037
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:37,680
the road and i thought they do exist

1038
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,550
he's also one of the few people um

1039
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,319
one of the other common questions i get

1040
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:48,000
is what do they do with their dead you

1041
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,400
know

1042
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:50,960
how come we never found the body and the

1043
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,240
indians that i've asked

1044
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:54,079
about that they'll say that they either

1045
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:55,520
bury them in water

1046
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:57,520
and they'll put like heavy rocks on

1047
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,440
their chest and sink the bodies down

1048
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:02,160
they've seen them do that or they will

1049
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:03,040
bury them

1050
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:06,720
like we do so the same guy was saying

1051
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:07,760
that he was a

1052
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:11,680
um he was a boy scout leader

1053
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:13,920
and he'd taken the guys on a 50-mile

1054
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,079
hike way out in the middle of nowhere

1055
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,880
it's beautiful hike by the way highly

1056
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:19,760
recommended

1057
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,440
i know so they were about the mid point

1058
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:25,119
in their week so they've been out

1059
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,400
probably about 22 miles he said and um

1060
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,560
up in those hills and they'd set up camp

1061
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,920
and the guys were just running around

1062
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:34,400
playing and stuff and they come running

1063
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,200
back and they're like

1064
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:37,119
you gotta see this you've got to say

1065
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:38,240
this

1066
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,920
that was surrounded by bushes and right

1067
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:43,280
in the middle there were these five

1068
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:44,319
grapes

1069
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:47,119
they were all about 10 feet long and

1070
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,760
there were

1071
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:49,839
limited vegetation growing over the top

1072
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:51,520
of them

1073
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,720
but they you know he figured that they

1074
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:55,920
must have been

1075
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:58,240
put there like sometime the last year

1076
00:43:08,309 --> 00:42:59,359
the

1077
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,319
he's like nothing about this

1078
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:11,440
you know what axe murder is kill

1079
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:12,640
somebody

1080
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:16,240
and drag them up 22 miles out of nowhere

1081
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:23,910
we're probably safe these are old graves

1082
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:27,760
we're going to leave them alone now

1083
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:30,960
back away from graves anyway so

1084
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:33,599
um so he told me that story and i just

1085
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:34,400
thought that was

1086
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,480
that's pretty dang cool you know

1087
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:40,800
it's you know it's people who tell me

1088
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,550
i feel so privileged that they trust me

1089
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:47,920
with those stories

1090
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:51,119
yeah because there's some you know

1091
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,720
sometimes people will say you know i've

1092
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,880
never told anyone

1093
00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:57,280
because people laugh at you they're you

1094
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,920
know

1095
00:44:01,190 --> 00:44:00,240
it's like even with pictures that you

1096
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:01,200
know

1097
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,400
somebody will put a picture up and

1098
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:04,640
they're like oh you can easily tell

1099
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:07,359
that's all fake man

1100
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:10,640
yeah really so

1101
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:14,720
have you seen one nope okay

1102
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:17,920
okay then so just

1103
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:20,960
back off yeah have a little bit of

1104
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:24,880
and just respect for other people who

1105
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:25,520
have had

1106
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:30,000
different experiences you know i have

1107
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:31,839
and i find this hard to believe but it's

1108
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:34,160
true i have never heard

1109
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,599
of a water burial possibility

1110
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:39,359
and you've had you've had several people

1111
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:40,800
tell you that

1112
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:46,230
even better than that you know people

1113
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,560
always say that the bigfoot stink

1114
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,720
well you think about it if we didn't

1115
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:53,040
take showers regularly

1116
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,680
we would probably stink too but i

1117
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:57,440
actually got this really cool report

1118
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:00,079
about a bigfoot taking shower too

1119
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:03,359
so these these two little girls had gone

1120
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:04,480
to the

1121
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,400
spend

1122
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:11,040
their two dollars and change you know

1123
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,400
and on the way back

1124
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,720
their bicycles ran over some puncture

1125
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,960
weed and got flat tires

1126
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,960
so they were taking a cut off to their

1127
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:21,040
house which was right along the edge of

1128
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,240
a canal

1129
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,800
and this gal was saying we could hear

1130
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,960
something in front of us singing

1131
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,720
and she said only it didn't sound like

1132
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,280
anything i'd ever heard before

1133
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:34,079
and she said we got up a little closer

1134
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:35,839
and there was this place where

1135
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,040
the the stream of water comes

1136
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:41,359
off the top of the hill and down into

1137
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,720
the canal

1138
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:44,560
and she said there was a big foot

1139
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:48,880
standing there under the stream of water

1140
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:51,920
and she said we sat there and we watched

1141
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,680
it for a while and then

1142
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:55,760
and then i convinced my friend let's go

1143
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,800
sneak home and tell dad

1144
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:01,119
so they did and i just thought you know

1145
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:04,880
what that is actually pretty dang cool

1146
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:06,800
yeah i you know i i've heard of them

1147
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,960
actually going into water

1148
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:11,040
uh for something other than grabbing

1149
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:12,400
fish or whatever

1150
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:15,839
but uh you know i've never heard of one

1151
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:18,640
standing under a waterfall or something

1152
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:19,040
to

1153
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,680
take a shower that's a new one you know

1154
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:22,640
you you

1155
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:25,760
you were raised around uh native

1156
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:29,040
native people um

1157
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,040
overall do they do they look at these

1158
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:35,280
these bigfoot or sasquatch or whatever

1159
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:36,640
you want to call them

1160
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,839
as actual beings or more spiritual than

1161
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,240
anything else they

1162
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:44,880
treat almost everything like a spiritual

1163
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:45,760
entity

1164
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:49,359
and um it's one of the things that i

1165
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:52,560
actually miss a lot of because

1166
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,480
they treat people with respect far more

1167
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:57,839
than i think

1168
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:00,480
we as people treat other people with

1169
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:01,440
respect

1170
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:05,040
yeah they just you know if it's not

1171
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,160
hurting you

1172
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,480
don't mess with it but in the same

1173
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,160
aspect like if they go out and they're

1174
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,319
going hunting it's for food

1175
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,440
it's not for sport you know and i've

1176
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:17,040
seen an awful lot of white people are

1177
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:18,000
like they're

1178
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,520
they've got three freezers at home

1179
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,119
they're all full of meat but they gotta

1180
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,960
go out and go hunting because they got a

1181
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:24,800
tag this year you know

1182
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:27,280
and they just what's the purpose in that

1183
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,359
really what's the purpose in that

1184
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:31,040
you know i used to do a lot of hunting

1185
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:32,400
at one point but i

1186
00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:35,200
i almost got to the point like said i

1187
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:36,559
thought well what am i

1188
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,599
doing you know uh

1189
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,520
you know when you're young you you know

1190
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:43,520
that doesn't bother i'll be quite honest

1191
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:44,240
with you

1192
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:46,400
over the past 40 years and i haven't

1193
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:47,359
hunted since

1194
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:50,559
back in this early 80s i

1195
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:53,760
um i don't think i'd go out into

1196
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,640
some of the places i used to go as

1197
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,319
before because

1198
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,160
you know when you hear all this stuff

1199
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:02,800
and uh on a regular basis you're kind of

1200
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:04,400
apprehensive about going out in the

1201
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,309
you know there have been some instances

1202
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,040
where i have been out there

1203
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,760
and uh let's say i'd be squirrel hunting

1204
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:17,520
and i'm sitting and watching a tree i

1205
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:19,599
hear some of the strangest noises

1206
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:22,559
that i couldn't even figure what it was

1207
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,359
yeah

1208
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:25,440
and back then i had a bigfoot what the

1209
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:26,880
hell's a bigfoot yeah

1210
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:30,559
but maybe i mean because

1211
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,559
these are areas where i have gotten

1212
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:34,400
reports from

1213
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:37,839
since that time so uh it makes you think

1214
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:40,480
you know wonder mom maybe i did have an

1215
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:42,000
encounter maybe at that point

1216
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,760
maybe it was there and i just didn't

1217
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:45,040
recognize it or

1218
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,480
whatever yeah you know i

1219
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,880
i heard this really amazing story and

1220
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,720
unfortunately the

1221
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:54,800
the fellow had happened to passed away

1222
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:57,839
before i got to interview him personally

1223
00:49:01,190 --> 00:49:00,240
but his hunting partner told me the

1224
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,200
story

1225
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:03,040
and he said they went out with a group

1226
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,599
of them a group of hunters and he said

1227
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:06,720
as they were passing

1228
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,079
under the shale area some rocks came

1229
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:12,240
down and one of them bounced off his

1230
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:13,760
friend's head

1231
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,440
and cut him cut him across the temple

1232
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,440
and it kind of gave him a headache he

1233
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,280
really didn't feel very good after that

1234
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,920
and and so they were headed out for a

1235
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:25,119
couple of days and

1236
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,200
and he finally convinced his partners he

1237
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:29,280
said you know i

1238
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:32,079
i really don't feel like riding in for a

1239
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,960
couple of days

1240
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:34,480
why don't you just leave me here and

1241
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,800
i'll stay in this cave right here

1242
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,559
and then when you come past again you

1243
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,079
can pick me up

1244
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,640
so they left him there and he had you

1245
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:44,240
know food and

1246
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:47,839
food and fire and whatnot and he

1247
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:51,119
what he told his partner was that he

1248
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,160
was awakened in the middle of the night

1249
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,480
and there was this bigfoot crouched down

1250
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:58,160
beside him

1251
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:01,200
and it was wiping his head

1252
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:05,760
with what felt like the soot of the fire

1253
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,280
and he said his head really hurt

1254
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,680
so i'm sure that whatever it was doing

1255
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:13,839
it thought it was helping but

1256
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,520
um he said it was there for some time

1257
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,359
and then when he woke the next morning

1258
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:21,119
headache was gone and the bigfoot was

1259
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,480
gone

1260
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,880
and i asked his hunting partner he said

1261
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,680
so

1262
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:27,599
how truthful do you think he was and he

1263
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,480
said oh he liked his jokes just as well

1264
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:32,480
as everyone else but he said when he

1265
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:35,359
told you something that serious you

1266
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:37,119
never change the story

1267
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:40,640
no man that would be pretty intense

1268
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:47,510
that that that's a good story you know

1269
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:48,400
uh

1270
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,559
i have i have heard a few

1271
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:55,200
few stories from people where it did

1272
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,800
seem like they were actually trying to

1273
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,079
help

1274
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,720
yeah there's a there's a gal i talked to

1275
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:02,880
out in um

1276
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:06,079
in uh eastern new mexico she lives close

1277
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:06,960
to texas

1278
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:10,240
order and she's had a couple run-ins

1279
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:11,280
with bigfoot

1280
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:15,040
and um she said that when she was

1281
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:15,520
younger

1282
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,920
she had actually uh

1283
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,599
she well you know she used to play

1284
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:23,119
around there was a school there when she

1285
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,079
went to school but

1286
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:26,079
you know during the day she would go and

1287
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,119
play there

1288
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:29,280
at the night and she said there was an

1289
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:31,359
old store that was abandoned that was

1290
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,680
there

1291
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:34,319
so she figured she'd go exploring well

1292
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,079
when she walked up there

1293
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,839
onto the porch she fell through the

1294
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:39,359
porch and

1295
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:42,720
she cut her leg and she's

1296
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:45,680
uh sitting there on the porch you seem

1297
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:46,880
good all the way through

1298
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:50,079
she's sitting here on the porch and got

1299
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:50,480
this

1300
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,200
and you know and she's crying and she's

1301
00:52:02,630 --> 00:51:59,520
upset because she can't walk

1302
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,640
and she said a couple minutes later this

1303
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:04,000
shadow comes over top

1304
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,520
of her you know and she looks up and

1305
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:08,720
hits this bigfoot

1306
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:16,790
bends down picks her up and takes her

1307
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:20,720
to her home sits her on the porch

1308
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:23,920
and takes the shard out of her leg

1309
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,119
and then just runs off and

1310
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:29,520
you know and i i tell you the way she

1311
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:30,960
told it to me and she was native

1312
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,280
american too she was navajo

1313
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,520
and with the way she told this to i i

1314
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,359
knew she was telling me the truth

1315
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:39,040
you know after all these years you can

1316
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,559
tell when somebody's

1317
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,920
you know pulling their leg or telling

1318
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,599
you something and

1319
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:46,079
that's one of the things i watch for

1320
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,680
when people are telling me stories you

1321
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:48,640
just think uh

1322
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,000
huh you're just looking for you know

1323
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:55,440
blowing it out your ear i got one really

1324
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:57,680
cool story kind of along those lines

1325
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:00,800
um there was a little lady who lived

1326
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:02,000
down the road from

1327
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:05,200
where i grew up i didn't i didn't know

1328
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:05,599
where

1329
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,119
i wish i had but i um in their family

1330
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:11,359
they had multiple people who

1331
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:14,240
experienced the bigfoot and i was

1332
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:15,760
interviewing her granddaughter

1333
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,040
some time later and she said here's a

1334
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,760
cool thing she said my grandma used to

1335
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,000
talk to the bigfoot all the time

1336
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,960
and she used to tell us these stories

1337
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:28,640
and at the time i just thought

1338
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:31,440
oh you know it's just grandma talking

1339
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,400
and she said i

1340
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,240
i would give anything if i could just

1341
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:36,880
listen to my grandma tell stories again

1342
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:40,960
but she said you know when i was younger

1343
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:44,480
grandma lived in this little dugout of a

1344
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,200
cabin it really was kind of pathetic and

1345
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:50,400
the the uh outhouse was

1346
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:53,920
20 feet down in behind the house

1347
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:56,880
and no running water that type of stuff

1348
00:54:02,470 --> 00:53:58,640
wood stove

1349
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:02,480
and the family got fairly prosperous

1350
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:05,760
so the kids built her a house but she

1351
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:07,599
wouldn't live in it

1352
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,640
she liked her old house so so they would

1353
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:12,319
get together and they would go get her a

1354
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,440
load of wood

1355
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,800
and then um come back and stack it for

1356
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:18,480
and all that stuff so

1357
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:19,920
it just happened the family got all

1358
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:21,680
together they went out and got a load of

1359
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:22,160
wood

1360
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,760
they brought it in they just dumped it

1361
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:25,280
in the middle of the yard

1362
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:27,280
they said now mom just leave this here

1363
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,720
and we'll come back tomorrow we'll stack

1364
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:30,720
it for you

1365
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:32,400
they came back the next day and all the

1366
00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:35,760
wood was stacked as neat as can be

1367
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:37,839
they said mom we told you leave the wood

1368
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:40,400
alone and she said i didn't stack it

1369
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:44,000
my friends did and she said some of the

1370
00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:45,760
things that her grandma would say was

1371
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,799
like

1372
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,720
she said sometimes when the wind was

1373
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:50,160
really blowing or when it was really

1374
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,280
snowy

1375
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,040
the bigfoot would come and they'd clear

1376
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,200
a path from the back of her house to her

1377
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,040
outhouse for her

1378
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,920
and she said that her grandma had a

1379
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:01,200
friend

1380
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:07,839
and she said they would sit in there in

1381
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,240
these porch swings

1382
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:12,079
and just kind of out look out over the

1383
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:14,960
valley and and she said i just

1384
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:17,359
remember my grandma saying you know that

1385
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:19,520
she had a little bit of a hitch

1386
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:22,000
in her hip like she was as old as the

1387
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,760
grandma was and the grandma passed away

1388
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:25,920
and she's 94.

1389
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:29,440
so that is really kind of cool

1390
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:32,079
cool story you know you told you you

1391
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,160
mentioned that i it kind of

1392
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,720
reminds me of my great aunt she was like

1393
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:39,119
she lived in a

1394
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:42,000
a ranshackle little shack with a wood

1395
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:43,760
stove and

1396
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:46,720
uh she was crippled and you know she

1397
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:48,319
didn't want anybody doing anything for

1398
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:49,119
her

1399
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,720
stay she didn't want you to do anything

1400
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,000
for it

1401
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:57,200
so uh yeah i know i can understand that

1402
00:56:02,069 --> 00:55:57,599
that

1403
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,079
becky

1404
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,160
do you uh do you have another book that

1405
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,319
you're working on or

1406
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:09,200
yeah is there anything else coming up

1407
00:56:12,110 --> 00:56:11,200
i'm actually working on kind of the

1408
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:12,120
greatest hits

1409
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,559
[Laughter]

1410
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:16,720
what i did is i went and compiled

1411
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,599
combined

1412
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:19,119
all three of the books i worked on

1413
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:21,520
before and the people that i could go

1414
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,960
back and re-interview

1415
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,200
i just went back to see you know have

1416
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,040
you had any other experiences

1417
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:29,680
since the first you know the first time

1418
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:30,160
i

1419
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:33,599
then

1420
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,559
i i've had i think 10 different news

1421
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,640
stories that i'll be adding to it and

1422
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:40,240
adding in new

1423
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,280
um oh diagrams and charts

1424
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:45,200
showing that was one of the things

1425
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,880
people said well we want to see a map

1426
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,079
where this place is

1427
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,480
you know i just think well you know

1428
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,000
map's not going to be very helpful

1429
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:54,480
because the bigfoot do move around

1430
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,240
yeah but we are also working on

1431
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:01,520
a um an online bigfoot convention and

1432
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:02,400
it's going to be

1433
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:05,599
just this next week on the 21st

1434
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,119
um actually let me send you over

1435
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,520
a post on that and you're welcome to put

1436
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:13,920
that up to

1437
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:22,309
yeah yeah you've got me you've got my

1438
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:23,920
email address so yes send it

1439
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:26,960
over there and uh give out your uh

1440
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:37,589
you get your books it's bigfootlimps.com

1441
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:47,990
i'll send this over to you okay

1442
00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:51,430
but bigfootlives.com and then

1443
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,599
you can find us on facebook and bigfoot

1444
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:54,960
lives

1445
00:58:02,309 --> 00:57:59,280
okay there we go that should be

1446
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:02,319
so for this bigfoot convention it's you

1447
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,240
know all of the bigfoot conventions got

1448
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:06,000
cancelled this year

1449
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,520
tell me about it it's so sad

1450
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:12,880
so i i know a lot of bigfoot folks love

1451
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:13,680
their swag

1452
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:17,040
i mean bigfoot it's bigfoot cool things

1453
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:18,160
you know

1454
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:21,680
so um i work with a fellow named brandon

1455
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:22,400
tennant

1456
00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:27,680
he's sasquat prince sasquatchprince.com

1457
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:30,400
and we had everything all geared up to

1458
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:31,680
go to quinault which

1459
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:34,160
was supposed to be this next saturday

1460
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:35,440
and then quinnell

1461
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,599
isn't gonna happen so he has all of

1462
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:39,680
these really incredible t-shirts

1463
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:43,359
i mean really incredible t-shirts and um

1464
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:46,400
so we uh

1465
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:47,760
we're kind of we're doing this

1466
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,839
convention and basically it's just a

1467
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,520
storytelling thing i'm

1468
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:53,680
i'm getting a bunch of the people that

1469
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:54,960
i've interviewed before

1470
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,240
and um interviewing them over the air

1471
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:00,160
but we're gonna allow anyone who's

1472
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:01,520
listening in to

1473
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:03,760
post their own questions in other words

1474
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:05,200
if there's something that i didn't ask

1475
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:06,559
that you really want to know

1476
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:10,240
please ask and um we're going to do that

1477
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:11,040
just

1478
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:14,079
um completely live but we'll re record

1479
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:15,200
it

1480
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:18,720
and just we're seriously just gonna have

1481
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:20,799
some fun i'm gonna give away some prizes

1482
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:21,760
and

1483
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:25,520
um just have some fun it may not be

1484
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:27,599
quite as much fun as a bigfoot

1485
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:29,040
convention and

1486
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:32,559
on you know in person we'll do pretty

1487
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:38,549
i hope it goes well for you i really do

1488
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:40,640
and you know i want to thank you for

1489
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,559
coming on tonight i i like your

1490
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:44,720
perspective i like your perspective

1491
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:47,839
on the phenomena because uh of course

1492
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:51,119
you know you've grown up around it but

1493
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:53,520
you kind of take it for what it is and

1494
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:54,319
uh

1495
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,200
i like that attitude well thank you

1496
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:01,839
so you know if you ever anything you

1497
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,040
ever want to talk about

1498
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:05,839
or uh anything you know you can contact

1499
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,789
okay it'd be my privilege to talk to it

1500
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,319
say about it so

1501
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:14,079
you take care and you have a good

1502
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:15,440
evening and uh

1503
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:18,640
i'm sure we'll talk soon alrighty thank

1504
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:19,680
you very much

1505
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,240
you take care now bye

1506
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:26,160
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1507
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:27,920
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1508
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1509
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1510
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1511
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1514
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1515
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1519
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1520
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1521
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1522
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1523
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,799
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1524
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:04,720
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1525
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:06,720
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1526
01:01:11,870 --> 01:01:08,640
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